When I wrote about Ethlabs last week, my piece talked about the what. Namely the basics of the new organization, and how it's a new independent R&D lab co-founded by former Ethereum Foundation luminaries like Ansgar Dietrichs and Caspar Schwarz-Schilling. That said, both Ansgar and Caspar just came on the podcast to cover the why of the org and their thinking around it. It's one of the best conversations about Ethereum's direction I've heard in a while.